Daniel Ek: Life After Spotify, Broken Healthcare Incentives, Catching Disease Early & AI's Potential

(0:00) Daniel Ek joins the Besties!

(1:14) Starting Spotify: Beating piracy and betting his own money on the record labels

(6:10) Neko Health: The Spotify playbook for healthcare, the $499 body scan, and why US healthcare waits until you're sick

(36:04) AI: Tech's failure to sell the upside, open vs. closed models, and regulating compute

(44:24) Back to Spotify: Podcasting's open standards and the Stardoll origin story

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